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1. Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Friday, 27-Jan-2017 21:12:48 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
   ♻ KWVoIP: At @KWLinuxfest tomorrow @BobJonkman of @KWVoIP tempts the #DemoDaemons with a participatory demo of #FreeSWITCH http://kwlinuxfest.ca
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     Everything takes longer… Presentations notes for @KWLinuxfest are online at http://sobac.com/presentations/kwlinuxfest/2017-01-28%20KW%20Linuxfest%20at%20Vehikl/
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     • Science Fiction
     All my computers are named after !SciFi authors. Started with Asimov, Bradbury, Clarke, DelRey, Ellison; had a series of Simak, Sturgeon, Spinrad, and now I'm up to Zelazny. Grasped at straws for Jeppson and Leonard (Elmore? Nimoy?)
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 14:56:56 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     At the @KWLinuxfest, listening to Stephanie Rozek @srozek speaking about Hive Waterloo @HiveWR
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     There are some empty seatsat @KWLinuxfest - even if you're not registered, come on down! 200 Bathurst St., Waterloo
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:00:09 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     Speaker schedule for @KWLinuxfest is at https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?eid=Z3FqN3Q1MDlxb2RqYnEza2JjMXAxNnZnNDAgbmxrYzM5anQ0cDBuYmM0cGs5cGo3cDVmaDBAZw&ctz=America/New_York
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:08:10 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     @SRozek says there's lots more to be done, and lots of activities in Waterloo. http://hivewr.ca/
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     Next up: @KrisABraun demonstrates @KidWifi - a custom configuration of #OpenWRT
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:54:13 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     Lots of techie people in the audience; @KrisABraun polls the audience for their interests
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:55:23 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     Based on the audience interests, @KrisABraun may veer into "Startups and Free Software"
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:58:15 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     What is a startup? @KrisABraun says a startup is a means to quickly get an answer to a question
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 15:59:26 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     @KrisABraun started looking a WiFi routers in October 2015, had something in people's homes in February 2016 - Startups are *fast*!
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:00:54 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     There are features that @KrisABraun wants to put in @KidsWiFi, but there's been no customer demand
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:08:47 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     @KrisABraun tells stories of ordering 5000 units, find out it's a new firmware version. 5000 bricks?
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:10:23 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     Happily, not 5000 bricks. Cracked open the cases by slamming them in a steel door, then using JTAG to troubleshoot
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     • Coffee
     Now @KrisABraun is doing a live demo of @KidsWifi at @KWLinuxfest. The #DemoDaemons must have had their !Coffee today
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:28:11 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     Lots of UX considerations in the @KidsWifi setup, eg. don't ask for timezone, capture it from the parents' browser
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:32:25 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     ♻ @kwlinuxfest: Want free pizza? Come down to the kwlinuxfest at 200 bathurst drive waterloo :)
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 16:37:10 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     @KrisABraun shows the innards of the @KidsWiFi configuration from the command line
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     • Free, Libre, and Open Source Software
     • Linux
     Now up: Jason Eckert @eckmeister on the history of !Linux and Open Source (I think he means !FreeSoftware)
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     • Linux
     DIY: The history of !Linux goes back to the 1940s and adding machines from International Business Machines
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:34:51 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     @EckMeister tells us a portable OS was needed, so many corporations invented Multics
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:35:47 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     But Multics was too expensive, and too big in scope. Ken Thompson and Dennis Richie reduced it in scope == Unix
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:37:46 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     KT and DR sold the Unix source code; customers each created their own flavour: HPOS <> SunOS
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:41:55 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     • GNU's Not Unix
     In 1985 @RMS developed !GNU to be a free operating system
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:45:31 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     • Free, Libre, and Open Source Software
     and in 1994 Eric Raymond rebranded !FS to "Open Source"
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:46:44 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     [editorial comment by me] Although Open Source provides the source code, it does not necessary provide software freedom
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:48:32 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     But in 1991 Linus Torvalds created a kernel based on Andrew Tanenbaum's book "Design and Implementation of Operating Systems"
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:53:05 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     • Linux
     By 1995 !Linux was so popular that Red Hat was created, and usage exploded
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 17:56:07 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     • Linux
     @EckMeister explains the "Distro": Same !Linux kernel and libraries, distributed with (different) additional software
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 18:01:06 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     History of Tux The Penguin: in a Usenet newsgroup there was discussion of dragons & such until Linus said "I like penguins"
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 18:07:31 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     • Linux
     At @KWLinuxfest, @EckMeister is showing us old commercials from IBM promoting !Linux
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 18:21:18 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     Recommended reading: "Free As In Freedom" by @RMS; "Cathedral & The Bazaar" by Eric Raymond
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 18:23:01 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     @EckMeister waxes enthusiastic about the ZFS filesystem
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 18:40:58 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     Schwag! @EckMeister has a book to give away: "LinuxPlus Guide to Linux Certification" by... Jason Eckert(!)
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:00:35 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     Now Marc Pare has taken the stage at @KWLinuxfest - the future of Open Source Software
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:04:12 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     Marc says Open Source is still not widely accepted in corporations as the "reliable" solution
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:05:46 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     Marc has statistics about the perception of security - 55% people say OSS is more secure, but 67% never check the source
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     • LibreOffice
     But !LibreOffice is well accepted as a secure package; used by, eg. the Italian army
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     • LibreOffice
     !LibreOffice came from 1984, Marco Borries wrote StarWriter, later bundled with Base to make StarOffice
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:10:52 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     StarOffice bought by Sun Microsystems in 1999(?), renamed OpenOffice in 2000
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     • LibreOffice
     Sun Microsystems bought by Oracle in 2010, but disagreements made the developers leave, and fork the code to !LibreOffice
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:15:16 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     OpenOffice is still maintained by the Apache Foundation, most developers are from IBM
   • Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:15:34 UTC Bob Mottram

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     @bobjonkman FOSS is more likely to be secure on average, but that doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of insecure things. Also it's not just about checking the source but also about the developer knowing that their code might be checked in future while writing it. That's an important psychological deterrent against backdoors, antifeatures and other malware getting into FOSS.
     Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca repeated this.
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:17:23 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     • LibreOffice
     Today, !LibreOffice is maintainted by The Document Foundation, headquartered in Germany
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:23:00 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     The ODF document format is the standard, the norm for use by gov'ts of Netherland, Taiwan, &c
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:24:17 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     • LibreOffice
     New versions of !LibreOffice released every six months, next is due on 1 February
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:28:08 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     • LibreOffice
     !LibreOffice maintains a list of "easy hacks" to make it easier for new people to contribute
   • Annah's got the Shotgun (maiyannah@community.highlandarrow.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:28:17 UTC Annah's got the Shotgun

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     • Bob Mottram
     @bob I think the important thing to realize is that while the social pressure to not have backdoors keeps programmers honest, it doesn't make bad programmers, or even good programmers who get a bit sloppy, more secure.  Just less likely to want to be a toadie.  IMO.
     Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca repeated this.
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:31:04 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     • LibreOffice
     Marc Pare is reviewing some of the code contributions and achievements since the launch of !LibreOffice
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:33:09 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     • LibreOffice
     "Document Liberation Project" is to create import filters to allow proprietary documents to be loaded by !LibreOffice
   • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:35:12 UTC LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     @bobjonkman Maintained is much too optimistic there. Late last year, OO's commit history looked like an abandoned SourceForge project.
     Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca repeated this.
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:45:32 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     • LibreOffice
     !LibreOffice has a certification program - still new, still being tweaked. But there's no North American agency providing certs
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:47:36 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     Marc Pare is looking for a venue to hold a LibreOffice Users Group meeting, have a hackfest, fly in some devs from Germany
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:53:18 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     • LibreOffice
     It's difficult to get a count of !LibreOffice users, since there's no registration requirement. Based on downloads, about 140 million
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 19:55:28 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     • LibreOffice
     Looking for people interested in joining a !LibreOffice Users Group - join the LOUG, see the world!
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:08:49 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     Next at @KWLinuxfest is Tony Thompson @Tonious on the !RaspberryPi and #Arduino
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:11:26 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     According to @Tonious, the !RaspberryPi 3 draws about 800 mW, enough that an Apple charger with 1m cable won't work
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:13:10 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     @Tonious wants to make a portable !RaspberryPi using an #Arduino, but he's not happy with existing plans
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:15:12 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     @Tonious explains the purpose of an #Arduino - it's an interface to real world hardware
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:16:07 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     @Tonious starts with a small #Arduino program written in C to blink an LED
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:18:15 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     @Tonious on optimizing compilers: "Don't do that. I'm the programmer, I know better."
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     Now @Tonious goes over the hardware on a !RaspberryPi
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     and @Tonious compares that to the hardware on an #Arduino, which has maybe one quarter the hardware, far less complex
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:27:39 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     @Tonious: "I'm a Unix programmer. I like ugliness."
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:28:37 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     @Tonious is using a 'make' script to compile a program on the !RaspberryPi and upload it to the #Arduino
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:31:09 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     @Tonious wants to minimize, reduce the #Arduino to just one chip, shows us a breadboard with five components
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:33:09 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     @Tonious explains how serial protocols work. Remember start bits, stop bits?
   • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Saturday, 28-Jan-2017 20:36:36 UTC Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca

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     Now @Tonious shows us how to link the pins on the !RaspberryPi to his single-chip #Arduino breadboard
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     But, sadly, it doesn't work. @Tonious explains this is due to a new bootloader, which has tighter timings
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     Now @Tonious explains the use of shift registers and an old debugging protocol he uses to transfer data
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     That's the SPI protocol, and it's very well supported in the hardware of both !RaspberryPi and #Arduino
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     The SPI is so well supported it's actually a device in the !RaspberryPi kernel: /dev/spidev0
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     Next option: Use I2C = Inter-Integrated Circuit; wiring is simple, libraries are available
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     @Tonious shows us some command line tools to manage I2C, eg. i2cset, i2discover (?)
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     • Today I Learned...
     !TIL 'man ascii'
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     In conclusion, @Tonious will use a combination of SPI and I2C to manage his #Arduino from his !RaspberryPi
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     Lots of hardware demonstrations at @KWLinuxfest today
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     Next at @KWLinuxfest: @BobJonkman with a participatory #VoIP demonstration
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     Hey, that's me! BRB!
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     • ana
     @ana@Indy.im I'll pass on your interest in a #LibreOffice User Group to Marc Paré, @MarcPar on Twitter. Where are you located?