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  1. 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2019 19:36:16 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
    • Ευάριστος

    @evaristus Federated timelines are usually improved by you muting the whole instance. There are only a gew instances that show porn so its easy to block it all in one go.

    But generally we dont silence instances at the server level unless they engage in harassment.

    In conversation Saturday, 07-Dec-2019 19:36:16 UTC from qoto.org permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2019 19:41:07 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Ευάριστος

      @evaristus

      You know how to mute a whole instance instead of just individuals right?

      @cowanon

      In conversation Saturday, 07-Dec-2019 19:41:07 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2019 19:43:58 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Ευάριστος

      @cowanon

      Hold on let me find it...

      @evaristus

      In conversation Saturday, 07-Dec-2019 19:43:58 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2019 19:45:51 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Ευάριστος

      @evaristus

      Go to the profile of a user from the server you wush to mute (click their username). Then press the three dots next to their profile. It should have an option saying "Hide everything from <server name>"

      @cowanon

      In conversation Saturday, 07-Dec-2019 19:45:51 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2019 19:48:26 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Ευάριστος

      @evaristus

      Not the most obvious really no.

      @cowanon

      In conversation Saturday, 07-Dec-2019 19:48:26 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Dec-2019 19:49:58 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Ευάριστος

      @cowanon

      Not sure about FSE

      @evaristus

      In conversation Saturday, 07-Dec-2019 19:49:58 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2019 09:24:01 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Casey Rollins :verified: 🔵
      • Ευάριστος

      @realcaseyrollins

      Sort of. Most instances will have different rules for what they allow federation with vs what they allow locally.

      We do not have a no-nudity rule, strictly speaking, but we do require it to be CW'ed

      Are rules are elaborated on in our about page. But we federate with every instance that protects a users right to disengage (a rather strict definition of harassment). Locally we are more strict though.

      I see no reason we should be dictating who our users want to follow or interact with though from other servers.

      @evaristus

      In conversation Sunday, 08-Dec-2019 09:24:01 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2019 10:46:11 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Casey Rollins :verified: 🔵
      • Ευάριστος

      @realcaseyrollins

      Sort of. Most instances will have different rules for what they allow federation with vs what they allow locally.

      We do not have a no-nudity rule, strictly speaking, but we do require it to be CW'ed

      Our rules are elaborated on in our about page. But we federate with every instance that protects a users right to disengage (a rather strict definition of harassment). Locally we are more strict though.

      I see no reason we should be dictating who our users want to follow or interact with though from other servers.

      @evaristus

      In conversation Sunday, 08-Dec-2019 10:46:11 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2019 17:57:58 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Casey Rollins :verified: 🔵
      • Ευάριστος

      @evaristus

      Thats pretty much the age old argument of security vs liberty... But worse yet, it isnt really security as just laziness. Less work for the user at the sacrifice of liberty (preventing them from hearing objectionable material if they wish to).

      It comes down to, are you willing to have someone dictate to you what is or is not objectionable just to save a few minutes of work?

      @realcaseyrollins

      In conversation Sunday, 08-Dec-2019 17:57:58 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2019 18:32:39 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Casey Rollins :verified: 🔵
      • Ευάριστος

      @evaristus

      I am suggestion the instance is minimally moderated in only the most essential ways.

      That means for federation purposes we garuntee ones right to disengage.

      For the local instance we guarantee people will interact with each other reasonably respectfully.

      Obviously the level of moderation we hold for our local users is somewhat stricter than what we impose on entire instances.

      Of course everything is open for discussion. If you think this is a bad policy I suggest you open a topic in the moderation section of ur discourse instance and myself, other moderators, and users would be happy to discuss it and consider changing our current policy.

      @realcaseyrollins

      In conversation Sunday, 08-Dec-2019 18:32:39 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2019 18:37:57 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Casey Rollins :verified: 🔵
      • Ευάριστος

      @evaristus

      I understand, and I very much appreciate you sharing your perspective.

      I wonder, did you read our about page before joining. The fact that we are moderated in this way is something we are rather explicit about.

      As for if we struck a good balance or not, well I guess thats not for me to decide. Ultimately if the users are unhappy about something I'd want to hear it. Thats why I suggest opening a discourse topic if it is important to you.

      @realcaseyrollins

      In conversation Sunday, 08-Dec-2019 18:37:57 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2019 18:43:17 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • arteteco
      • DaveTLV
      • mngrif :kentucky:
      • Casey Rollins :verified: 🔵
      • Rob G.
      • Ευάριστος

      @evaristus @realcaseyrollins

      Tagging other mods (And nominated mods): @design_RG @arteteco @mngrif @Surasanji

      In conversation Sunday, 08-Dec-2019 18:43:17 UTC permalink
    • arteteco (arteteco@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 08-Dec-2019 19:40:21 UTC arteteco arteteco
      in reply to
      • DaveTLV
      • mngrif :kentucky:
      • Casey Rollins :verified: 🔵
      • Rob G.
      • Ευάριστος

      @freemo @realcaseyrollins @design_RG @mngrif @Surasanji

      I'm a free speech lover and I like this place to be a platform for our users to get in touch with as much as they want of the fediverse, as long as there is no **active** harassment of any of us.

      The rest is up to the users and the clients, they have a lot of power in carving their own informational niche, and that one of the big reasons why AP exists in the first place.
      I understand that people may not be familiar with the technology, which has never had this scale of usage, but if you want freedom and independence is it too much to ask that you just search "mastodon how to silence instance", or whatever you may need?

      We as mod are also always here to answer doubts and help our users to get the best out of this place, but no, I personally would never take the arrogant decision of what is good or bad for others to be exposed to.

      Please, @evaristus , if we want to talk about it in a serious way could you please open a topic on discourse? We encourage this kind of discussion and it would be easier for anyone to follow.

      In conversation Sunday, 08-Dec-2019 19:40:21 UTC permalink
      🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 repeated this.
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 09-Dec-2019 08:58:00 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • arteteco
      • DaveTLV
      • mngrif :kentucky:
      • Casey Rollins :verified: 🔵
      • Xyfdi Horton
      • Rob G.
      • Ευάριστος

      @xyfdi
      The definition QOTO uses for harassment is rather strict. It means anyone who does not respect a users right to disengage.

      If someone says go away, then go away, thats all.

      @arteteco @realcaseyrollins @design_RG @mngrif @Surasanji @evaristus

      In conversation Monday, 09-Dec-2019 08:58:00 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Monday, 09-Dec-2019 09:04:50 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • arteteco
      • DaveTLV
      • mngrif :kentucky:
      • Casey Rollins :verified: 🔵
      • Xyfdi Horton
      • Rob G.
      • Ευάριστος

      @xyfdi

      Sort of.. block button isnt always sufficient for several reasons. For example users may create multiple accounts to circumvent it, or if a user continues to tag someone they may cause multiple users from their instance to gang up on someone who had asked to disengage. Moderators cant block at all to ensure they can effectively admin, etc.

      @arteteco @realcaseyrollins @design_RG @mngrif @Surasanji @evaristus

      In conversation Monday, 09-Dec-2019 09:04:50 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Dec-2019 09:37:59 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Casey Rollins :verified: 🔵
      • Chikara

      @chikara

      It means if someone from another instance is tagging you repeatidly and you ask them to leave you alone, and they dont, then the moderators at the instance will be asked to intervene, If they do not do so then the instance will be silenced.

      When an instance is silenced you can only see a message from one of its users if you follow that user first.

      @realcaseyrollins

      In conversation Sunday, 15-Dec-2019 09:37:59 UTC permalink
    • 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Sunday, 15-Dec-2019 09:39:55 UTC 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱
      • Chikara

      @chikara When were you confronted with a claim of harassment from a QOTO moderator? When were you forced to endure the consequences of that?

      I a, the head administrator here and I dont know of any incident where you were said to be engaging in harassment.

      Whats the problem?

      In conversation Sunday, 15-Dec-2019 09:39:55 UTC permalink

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