muesli
It's simply unbelievable just *how* bad Nvidia's Linux support is 🤦
Replaced a GTX 1060 with the cheapest and (on paper) less capable AMD card I managed to get, and it's just staggering how smooth and glitch-free everything feels now.
- Desktop: renders at roughly four times the fps
- Suspend/resume issues: gone
- Rendering glitches: disappeared
- DisplayPort on boot-up: works now
- FreeSync at 120hz: yup
- Linux console: properly scaled fonts
It's like I upgraded from a 10 year old machine 😂
muesli
OMG OMG OMG, Firefox scrolling is now super smooth, too. I'm almost crying tears of joy here 🥲
muesli
...and yes, I absolutely tried every trick in the book. Experimented with both nouveau and the proprietary nvidia drivers, played with DRI settings, kernel module options, and Xorg configs. Had special scripts in place to reload the Nvidia module on resume. I managed to make it work, but it was still a pretty miserable experience.
Obligatory: "Fuck you, Nvidia!"
Wolf480pl
@fribbledom btw. what card specifically?
muesli
Got a deal on an ASUS RX 6500 XT. Would I recommend this card? No, not necessarily, on paper this is currently a bad deal. I just needed a functioning desktop however, I don't care about gaming on this machine. So yes, for that it's absolutely been worth it.
muesli
Switched from a GTX 1060 6GB to an RX6500 XT with 4GB.
SIN001-SINEWAVE :heart_nb:
@fribbledom 3GB or 6GB GTX 1060, and what AMD did you switch to?
muesli
Still on X, but I'll certainly give Wayland another shot now.
Carl Schwan :kde:
@fribbledom are you also now using wayland? Or still x?
muesli
Not unusable, but yes, I had forgotten how smooth it can actually be.
Ghost Letters
Was it really SO bad before?😂
muesli
Yeah, on paper it's almost a downgrade, isn't it? It's like night and day tho.
You're absolutely right that other Nvidias & even other 1060s do not show (all of) the same symptoms. I almost wish I could look into the drivers to figure out what's going on here. There are internal block-lists for specific features on certain cards, but with the Nvidia driver being a big black box, we'll probably never quite figure it out. I'm just glad I don't have to anymore.
SIN001-SINEWAVE :heart_nb:
@fribbledom Interesting upgrade
Also, I do wonder if card vendor can affect it too, since while it's a bit glitchy, my 6GB GTX 1060 hasn't had a lot of the issues you mentioned
I have an Asus Strix OC one for reference
purgatos
@fribbledom makes that big a difference huh? guess that'll be my next PC buy
Acesabe
@fribbledom if you are an open source non gamer then AMD is a no-brainer. I've been AMD only since like 2009..
Minty
@fribbledom
Many fucks have been hurled in the direction of NVIDIA over the years. Possibly the most uncooperative hardware company ever.
muesli
Yep. Not that I'd recommend buying that particular card, as it's *still* a bad deal when it comes to value for money. But hey, I got a functioning desktop.
pajlow
@fribbledom
Cheapest meaning RX 6500 XT?
muesli
RX6500 XT. Not that I'd recommend buying that particular card, as it's *still* a bad deal when it comes to value for money. But hey, I got a functioning desktop.
التنينوكس
@fribbledom what is the card in particular. I might want to give it a try.
muesli
It's nice to hear you don't have any of the issues, but that doesn't mean others don't have them. This post got almost 200 reactions, I assume it's because a bunch of people can actually relate.
nodq :idle:
@fribbledom I am using a nvidia 3070 and before that a 1080. I do not have any of these problems at all.
I am also using a 240hz monitor/freesync etc. Displayport works just fine? Just like Suspend/Hibernate and all that works just fine?
Even games work just... fine? Even better than on Windows in certain cases?
I would appreciate more open drivers of nvidia, sure. But ppl really are hyperbole about their current drivers, seriously.
muesli
Yeah, I've tried nouveau as well. It has an entire different set of issues and glitches in my experience. The rendering performance on 4k and 5k displays alone was pretty much a showstopper, already. The last time I tested it, it didn't cope with my current display's native 5120x1440 resolution *at all*.
アズラ: 大キツネ
der.hans
@fribbledom completely believable to me, they've been anti-FLOSS and pretty anti-Linux for a long time
I stick with AMD or Intel if at all possible
When getting stuck with nvidia it's a horrible experience
usually horrible again at upgrade time as well
muesli
Video decoding (with the exception of AV1) is fine, a video encoding pipeline is completely missing though.
Mek101
@fribbledom @wolf480pl No video decoding is kinda of deal breaker tough
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