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1. muesli (fribbledom@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 16-May-2022 11:15:31 UTC muesli

   GPG not letting me specify which key I want to use for decryption is driving me nuts. You'd expect that to be one of the most basic operations, but GPG's user-unfriendliness apparently knows no bounds.

   • muesli (fribbledom@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 16-May-2022 11:20:43 UTC muesli

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

     @lanodan

     Theoretically, but it could decrypt this with 5 different smartcards, only one of which I currently have on me. As luck will have it, it typically asks me to insert the other 4 smartcards first before it finally realizes "oh, there's a smartcard plugged in that just works".

   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Monday, 16-May-2022 11:20:48 UTC Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • muesli
     @fribbledom Shouldn't it just pick the right one automagically?
   • muesli (fribbledom@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 16-May-2022 11:23:03 UTC muesli

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     • Albert ARIBAUD ✎

     @aaribaud

     I have something encrypted for 5 different smart cards. I only have one of them on me at any given time. GPG will ask me to insert the other 4 smartcards first, before it finally tries to decrypt it with the one present. So there is a *need* to specify it, or GPG needs to become much smarter about such situations.

   • Albert ARIBAUD ✎ (aaribaud@mastodon.art)'s status on Monday, 16-May-2022 11:23:04 UTC Albert ARIBAUD ✎

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     • muesli

     @fribbledom Er... GPG normally selects the decryption key based the public key that was used to encrypt. There should be no *need* to specify a decryption key.

   • muesli (fribbledom@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 16-May-2022 11:31:46 UTC muesli

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     • Wolf480pl

     @wolf480pl

     Absolutely. The interface, the documentation, the mailing lists... everything radiates this very attitude.

   • Wolf480pl (wolf480pl@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 16-May-2022 11:31:48 UTC Wolf480pl

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     • muesli

     @fribbledom it seems like GPG was written with a "be smarter than the user" mindset

   • muesli (fribbledom@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 16-May-2022 11:33:31 UTC muesli

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     • Robin Frousheger

     @froosh

     I've honestly been thinking about this!

   • Robin Frousheger (froosh@aus.social)'s status on Monday, 16-May-2022 11:33:32 UTC Robin Frousheger

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     • muesli

     @fribbledom create a temporary/separate gpg directory which has only the required card imported? Dumb work-around, but should work until you can convince the working group they are wrong 😅

   • muesli (fribbledom@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 16-May-2022 11:47:28 UTC muesli

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     • Albert ARIBAUD ✎

     @aaribaud

     Not that I'm aware of :(

   • Albert ARIBAUD ✎ (aaribaud@mastodon.art)'s status on Monday, 16-May-2022 11:47:30 UTC Albert ARIBAUD ✎

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     • muesli

     @fribbledom Ah, ok, I see. I've never used GPG, so I'm guessing here that GPG does not have a "lazy" mode where it would just try the smartcard(s) present rather than ask for all the smartcards it knows.

   • Cy (cy@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 16-May-2022 16:09:15 UTC Cy

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     • muesli

     @fribbledom Wait, decryption? So you want GPG to fail saying it can't decrypt it, even though you have the right decryption key?

   • muesli (fribbledom@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 16-May-2022 16:09:15 UTC muesli

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     • Cy

     @cy

     No, I want gpg to use the one decryption key I tell it to use and stop asking me for 4 other smartcards I don't currently have on me.

   • muesli (fribbledom@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 16-May-2022 16:10:55 UTC muesli

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     • Cy

     @cy It will eventually stumble upon the one smartcard it could have used to begin with, but not before asking me to plug in all the other ones first.

   • Cy (cy@mstdn.io)'s status on Monday, 16-May-2022 16:10:56 UTC Cy

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     • muesli

     @fribbledom Oh I get it. You're saying it's picking the wrong decryption key, failing, then not letting you specify the right one.