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Notices by Benjamin Mako Hill (mako@social.coop), page 5

  1. Benjamin Mako Hill (mako@social.coop)'s status on Saturday, 30-Jun-2018 23:27:55 UTC Benjamin Mako Hill Benjamin Mako Hill

    @mike_hales In terms of managing protocols, you're right that's turtles all the way down.

    But I also think there's real autonomy to be gained from pushing things onto a lower turtle. ;)

    Creating, changing, adding to the SMTP (email) protocol standard involves politics. And it has been coopted in clear ways. But the fact that it's a federated protocol by design means that we're MUCH better than alternative where everybody had to use GMail to send messages to each other.

    In conversation Saturday, 30-Jun-2018 23:27:55 UTC from social.coop permalink
  2. Benjamin Mako Hill (mako@social.coop)'s status on Saturday, 30-Jun-2018 23:10:03 UTC Benjamin Mako Hill Benjamin Mako Hill

    @mike_hales We should remember that although the consequences rarely involve being sold to Microsoft cooperative organizations also become oligarchic—e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_law_of_oligarchy.

    Peer production & Internet-based cooperativism is hardly immune: https://mako.cc/academic/shaw_hill-laboratories_of_oligarchy-DRAFT.pdf

    In conversation Saturday, 30-Jun-2018 23:10:03 UTC from social.coop permalink
  3. Benjamin Mako Hill (mako@social.coop)'s status on Saturday, 30-Jun-2018 23:00:22 UTC Benjamin Mako Hill Benjamin Mako Hill

    @mike_hales I'm saying that there are two distinct ways of solving the problem of infrastructure run by organizations with little structural reason to act in the interests of their users: (1) Build new tech to decentralize tasks so there is less/no need for shared infrastructure. (2) Manage infrastructure cooperatively & democratically (and develop new/better ways to do this!).

    Both approaches have limits and I think the best results involve pursuing both in parallel.

    coop≠libre but coop⊂libre

    In conversation Saturday, 30-Jun-2018 23:00:22 UTC from social.coop permalink
  4. Benjamin Mako Hill (mako@social.coop)'s status on Saturday, 30-Jun-2018 22:15:29 UTC Benjamin Mako Hill Benjamin Mako Hill

    @mike_hales Cooperative management of shared infrastructure is path to "libre." A more libertarian approach is decentralization and federation around fixed (or cooperatively managed?) protocols which deemphasize the need for shared infrastructure in some way.

    If we believe that effective cooperatives will be limited in scale or scope, a combination of the two may be necessary. This is more or less what we have here at social.coop which is part of a larger federated network.

    In conversation Saturday, 30-Jun-2018 22:15:29 UTC from social.coop permalink
  5. mike_hales (mikehales@social.coop)'s status on Saturday, 30-Jun-2018 19:59:23 UTC mike_hales mike_hales
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    • Benjamin Mako Hill

    @mako Found your #libre talk http://media.mako.cc/hill-whither_peer_production-libreplanet_keynote-20180326-EDITED-v3.webm#t=199

    #commons #P2P

    Great insight and strategic sense, all through - too many hits to tag. All should view this.

    To the barricades!

    OK, one tag: more #users . .
    Who exactly are the users to be served by social.coop? Many producers, focused on producer-side stuff? Chloe Waratini wrote, Culture is what platforms & coops produce: culture for product/service users, & culture of producers for serving users. Perhaps users = producers? Maybe not

    In conversation Saturday, 30-Jun-2018 19:59:23 UTC from social.coop permalink Repeated by mako

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  6. Benjamin Mako Hill (mako@social.coop)'s status on Saturday, 30-Jun-2018 22:07:03 UTC Benjamin Mako Hill Benjamin Mako Hill

    @mike_hales There's link to both a WebM video (no nonfree Javascript) and a Youtube video from this link: https://mako.cc/copyrighteous/libreplanet-2018-keynote

    ("Sharecropping" is Cory's term, not one I've used.)

    In conversation Saturday, 30-Jun-2018 22:07:03 UTC from social.coop permalink
  7. Benjamin Mako Hill (mako@social.coop)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Jun-2018 03:15:52 UTC Benjamin Mako Hill Benjamin Mako Hill

    @PresGas Yay! I'm so glad you appreciated it!

    In conversation Wednesday, 27-Jun-2018 03:15:52 UTC from social.coop permalink
  8. Benjamin Mako Hill (mako@social.coop)'s status on Wednesday, 27-Jun-2018 03:05:52 UTC Benjamin Mako Hill Benjamin Mako Hill

    @PresGas Edits!

    I paid somebody on Upwork to edit in the slides and that person also cleaned up some other stuff including editing out some pauses and a weird interruption in the middle due to AV issues.

    I watched the whole video and also noticed some of the skipping but I can verify that the content is all there and that the whole experience is smoother this way (even if the video isn't in a few places).

    In conversation Wednesday, 27-Jun-2018 03:05:52 UTC from social.coop permalink
  9. Benjamin Mako Hill (mako@social.coop)'s status on Friday, 22-Jun-2018 23:38:26 UTC Benjamin Mako Hill Benjamin Mako Hill

    What does the "maker" movement think of the song "Maker" by Fink? An accidental anthem or just unfortunate evidence of the semantic ambiguity around an overloaded term? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJhnbmdSy_U

    In conversation Friday, 22-Jun-2018 23:38:26 UTC from social.coop permalink
  10. Benjamin Mako Hill (mako@social.coop)'s status on Thursday, 21-Jun-2018 18:11:52 UTC Benjamin Mako Hill Benjamin Mako Hill

    @stevelord You are correct that this is also evidence in favor of my thesis. 😉

    In conversation Thursday, 21-Jun-2018 18:11:52 UTC from social.coop permalink
  11. Benjamin Mako Hill (mako@social.coop)'s status on Thursday, 21-Jun-2018 18:09:46 UTC Benjamin Mako Hill Benjamin Mako Hill

    @stevelord It's is also self-hosted as WebM playable in a browser (also linked to from the post): http://media.mako.cc/hill-whither_peer_production-libreplanet_keynote-20180326-EDITED-v3.webm#t=199

    My personal goal is to never require folks to use a service like YT but to consider republishing or mirroring things there. I am OK with meeting them where they are if it doesn't mean requiring them to go somewhere they probably shouldn't be.

    In conversation Thursday, 21-Jun-2018 18:09:46 UTC from social.coop permalink
  12. Benjamin Mako Hill (mako@social.coop)'s status on Thursday, 21-Jun-2018 16:40:25 UTC Benjamin Mako Hill Benjamin Mako Hill

    This writeup of my #LibrePlanet2018 keynote on BoingBoing is more eloquent and concise than the talk. Thanks to Cory for the awesome summary, reflections, and signal boost! https://boingboing.net/2018/06/21/digital-enclosure.html

    In conversation Thursday, 21-Jun-2018 16:40:25 UTC from social.coop permalink
  13. rixx (rixx@chaos.social)'s status on Thursday, 21-Jun-2018 13:51:43 UTC rixx rixx
    • Benjamin Mako Hill

    A well-phrased short talk by @mako on free tools for free software: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_nK6nP_RCY

    In conversation Thursday, 21-Jun-2018 13:51:43 UTC from chaos.social permalink Repeated by mako

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  14. Benjamin Mako Hill (mako@social.coop)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Jun-2018 19:00:12 UTC Benjamin Mako Hill Benjamin Mako Hill

    You can now watch my #LibrePlanet keynote (edited w/ slides) about how firms and markets have coopted the free culture and free software movement's most powerful weapon (mass collaboration) and where that leaves us. https://mako.cc/copyrighteous/libreplanet-2018-keynote

    In conversation Tuesday, 19-Jun-2018 19:00:12 UTC from social.coop permalink

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