Notices by 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org), page 111

@zeccano

No there are no famous reputable scienctist who reject relativity, not anymore, they used to. But the experiments thatprove it keep pouring in so there are very few left that reject it.

You can disagree all you want, but the fact remains reality proves it to be true. We **must** use relativistic equations to solve tons of seperate problems that cant be solved otherwise. We have proven beyond any doubt that the equations for relativity dictate the results they claim to.

So any issue you have with the hypothesis is on your lack of understanding, nothing more.

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@zeccano

Good bye, dont let the door hit you on the way out.

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@iamo I hope you find an answer that brings you happiness, I truly do.

I wish I had an answer for you. Sadly people are assholes, at least a lot of them. It is hard to live in a world and avoid that simple fact.

You're options are, be around it and fight an endless battle against it, or avoid being exposed to it in any way. I'm afraid there isnt much else you can do but pick one of those, whichever one would make you happy.

@zeccano

It does answer the how (though the deeper you go the more unanswered questions).

Dont confuse the fact that no one is willing to talk to you or explain to you how due to your obnoxious personality as being the same as there not being an answer.

@zeccano

Actually I started with my understanding of relativity much like you. I didnt think it was real and thought einstein was a fool.

Unlike you I devoted myself to learning the math so I could disprove it and doing the actual experiments so I could likewise disprove it.

When i did this I noticed he was in fact correct and all of his equations represent reality, and they all work out on paper as expected.

Since the truth was more important than my ego I admitted I was wrong, I choose to believe what reality was seen to do (rather than deny the truth right in front of my face) and accepted it as true.

Einsteins ego has nothing to do with it.

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@iamo While your welcome to stay here (by the way you have yet to reply to two moderator messages you got earlier...)

I honestly do think youd be happier on another instance. There are many instances out there that are very aggressive on suspending accounts. You could easily have a safe space where you cant even see federated servers that have nazis (here you can still see such servers).

@zeccano

If your willing to accept relativity is real and that the equations that govern it predict reality accurately, at that point I will be happy to discuss with you WHY light is special.

But until you do so i will not get sucked into another seperate conversation on how with someone who cant even see past his own ego.

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@zeccano

You are too far gone to make any sense of it I fear. your counter arguments have been feeding dogma, delusion, and your ego seems to overwhelm a sense of your own uneducated ideas somehow being superior to the experimental evidence.

Until you are willing to accept that you dont know the answer to the vast majority of this because you never studied or leqarned the math you wont get anywhere.

I am not saying you have to accept what people tell you. but I am suggesting that you have to take the fundemental truths we know from experiment and explain them, something you dont do. You dont even bother looking at how reality works (experiment) prior to drawing your conclusions.

I really hope this will click and you over come your ego. At one point earlier in the conversation you seemed to show a hint of potential at doing so, then you just started a dumpster fire and made a fool of yourself.

Still hoping you can recover and make some actual sense out of reality.

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@zeccano

I wrote an entire reply when you asked that, it wasnt ignore. I just said the how is not needed to prove that something IS...

I dont need to know HOW you became an idiot to know you are an idiot for example.

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@zeccano

Yes the clock will oey the laws of relativity in that galazy as well, of course it would, thats the whole fucking point. Luckily we have experimental evidence that also confirms this.

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@zeccano

In order to prove that light is special in the way we described we would need to measure it from two different reference frames and show it is C in both reference frames, presuming each has a different velocity of course.

Yes this has been done experimentally, I linked you the experiment earlier that does this but you never read it.

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@_lunawinters you should be :)

@zeccano

How do you expect to get me to the andromeda galaxy to test that? Since we both agree it would change the results (just as relativity dictates it would) then what are you even arguing.

Again go away your wasting my time at this point. You know your wrong but your so riddled by psychosis you are still fucking blathering on... end it

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@zeccano

You dont need to know how something is true in order to be able to prove it is true.

We have tested experimentally and proved it was true, the math all predicts what we observe. Therefore we know it is true.

I am happy to go into how speed of light is special (the answer deals with the permeability of free space combined with other complex ideas).

But I will not go on another tangent with you unless and until you admit that you've been a flaming fool and wrong about all the nonsense youve spouted up until this point,.

If you recognize the reality of relativity and a desire to learn I am happy to answer these questions and dig deeper, otherwise you are wasting my time.

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@zeccano

Of course it would change the readings, thats the whole fucking point dumbass. Thus the term relative, the results are **relative** to your frame of reference.

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@zeccano

Of course the clock can run at any speed you want by adjusting your frame of reference, thats the whole point, thats why it is called relativity.

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@zeccano

Of course its possible for them to both measure the same object. With most things your right, they would get different speeds. However light is special and therefore they get the same speed.

**That is the whole fucking point**

That observed truth, however odd, is exactly why we had to come up with relativity, to explain it.

Holy shit how do you not even get what is meant by "The speed of light is a constant" after a week of this being explained to you.

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@zeccano

You can go away now, you are either a troll or an idiot with a big ego. I have time for neither

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@zeccano

I will leave with this..

Thlight is not "moving in my your frame" The proper way to word it is "I am observing the light from my own frame of reference".

Two people are moving at different speeds, both observing the same light moving at its own 3rd speed (this is the light clocks experment).

Using your deficient logic here, whose frame of reference is the light in, the first observer or the second?

The answer is, both, everything is in every frame of reference and any frame of reference can be defined by any point you wish.

In other words you dont even understand the basic idea of what a frame of reference is yet somehow you think you understand this....

Now go away until you are ready to learn something.

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