Notices by 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org), page 123

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@sda I probably favorited on my phone and just forgot to circle back to it when i was on my computer.

You have to remember with almost 7K followers I have a lot of incoming messages that often bury older ones.

@realcaseyrollins

I'm not sure I'd use the word simple-minded. I'd say you willingly expose yourself to propaganda, and as a consequence it probably effects your ability to be subjective to some extent.

How your own bias compares to the general population, well you may be better off you may be worse, I dont know you well enough.

The fact that I avoid that sort of news probably works in my favor. Though I also have other ways in which im bias. So I don't necessarily put myself above anyone else on that scale either.

But yea, I don't think watching fox news is doing you any favors, particularly if you view it as a credible source.

@pschwede

@pschwede The news should mostly just be inclusive of who said what, and what evidence there is for a particular story, regardless of a conclusion.

Think of it more like science. A good journal worthy paper is like journalistic integrity. In other words, it does research in order to answer a particular question, buit provides all the data, especially the contradictory stuff, and any conclusion drawn is driven by the data.

Now the problem is with journalists there is no peer review in the same sense. So **we** as readers need to be the peer review. That means when we see bias from a new organization, we deny them credibility. If we see them selecting data to support a narrative rather than concluding a narrative from the data, then we likewise deny them credibility.

@pschwede I've never evaluated them so I have no opinion on their neutrality.

@pschwede I disagree, it is contrary to journalistic integrity. IF there is a conclusion to be drawn then it would be presented by the facts, not the need to intentionally lead the reader to a specific conclusion.

@CCoinTradingIdeas

No no it worked fine for a day or two, I got the notification my account was suspended and everything.

They were routinely suspending/deleting accounts for a few months there for anyone who did that (promoted a non-gab server). It was a very big deal and part of what led people to block the gab server, their hypocrisy regarding freedom of speech.

Keep in mind at the time Gab was dealing with a lot of hate from the community and they probably experienced a lot of sign ups from accounts who wanted to bad-mouth gab. They blocked those users which resulted in a huge exodus from Gab in the first place and thus the final boycott by the community.

@Wifflum

@sda Was this meant as a reply to me? If you provided me links to the studies then I think I missed them sorry, provide them again and I'll be happy to review.

@sda Was this meant as a reply to me?

@CCoinTradingIdeas

I'm not on GAB, so I cant see the group. Gab even blocked my account on GAB because I changed my usaername to "QOTOisBETTER" lol.

@Wifflum

@Wifflum

I think it would be obvious to anyone with a basic education who was part of the conversation that Addidas didnt understand the concepts he was trying to talk about.

I do agree insults dont help. It is clear his education was completely neglected as a child and this is all just a coping mechanism for him to deal with the fact that he is illiterate in math and science.

I pity him, i dont shame him.

@CCoinTradingIdeas

@pschwede No i dont think that is neccesary to determine bias, I feel like your mixing up bias with misinformation, they are related but not the same.

While the chosen facts is also influenced by bias the bias also exists in tone, framing and language, in between the fact, and is present even when the facts may hold to be true in isolation.

Therefore most bias, at least that found in the media where it is more apparent, is almost immediately obvious by simply listening to the tone of the writing, usually even in the first sentence.

Ask yourselves when you read a news article, are the trying to paint a certain picture to support a specific conclusion, or are they simply reporting on what was said or witnessed and leaving conclusions to the reader

@CCoinTradingIdeas Its more sad than funny really. I see it as a severe mental disorder on his part. HE was uneducated, probably through neglect and it is a coping mechanism to deal with the shame of being uneducated, a need to convince himself he is smarter than the smartest scientists and the masses.

I dont mock him, I pity him.

@pschwede I never suggested you cant read the biased news. Only that it should not be used as a source of information beyond, perhaps, a que as to what topics need researching from other less biased sources

If you remember at my lead in I even admitted that I often use the news to give me a que as to what latest world events were developing and needed my attention but then would use other sources to get that information

@pschwede Having incomplete information is not the same as having biased information.

That would depend largely on what angle for the camera was chosen and why. I have seen nothing to suggest that they choose their camera angles based on an inherent bias.

@native7 As much as I love their intention these groups sadly dont realize just how much harm they would do to the environment if they go their way.

They should be barracading the entrance to trucking companies that haul oil and NOT the pipelines which ultimately reduce that same pollution.

Could you imagine a world where all the oil pumped by pipelines had to be carried by millions of tricks in an endless caravan instead.

@pschwede

We are naturally biased, I agree. But that is not an excuse to succumb to that bias. In fact, all the more reason we need to make a conscious effort to avoid bias at every turn and to the greatest extent with which we are capable.

@design_RG

@pschwede Perfect objectivity maybe not, but we should take the closest representation of that. C-span is often a news camera sitting in congress recording things live as they happen. You cant get more objective than that unless they somehow choose to exclude sessions that would work against an agenda, which they dont appear to do.

@sda

Thats a very weak excuse. Anyone who sees the power point presentation can clearly see that was the intended purpose, particularly considering the cherry picked nature of the screen shots.

Moreover I researched the source of the powerpoint before i commented, as I tend to do (unlike your suggestion that i didnt even read it). The source is one that routinely takes the stance regarding drawing links between autism and other diseases and vaccines without ever providing the counter evidence in a fair or balanced way.

@xyfdi

@pschwede thats like saying "it is bias only towards things that aren't biased.

Forgive me but thats quite the play on words.