Notices by 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org), page 41

@design_RG

There are plenty of scandelous reasons to hate FB. I am not implying we dont have a right to hate them. I am just saying they are not to blame for the spread of fake news, that is on us as a people.

@realcaseyrollins

@design_RG

Social Media certainly allows for the spread of Fake News I suppose, people share it and all. Before that it was chain e-mails though so I'm not sure social media is so much to blame as it is simply the medium of choice.

With that said I see no reason why people being allowed to gossip fake news would, inherently, cause an increase in fake news. A society of scholars likely wouldnt see this effect at all for example.

@realcaseyrollins

@realcaseyrollins

We disagree on two points. The obvious one is Trump being a bad president, but thats also a bit of a tangent.

The other is that its the elites in Silicon Valley that are the issue. Most of the news agencies arent Silicon Valley Elites running the show, though it is Elites. The issue is far simpler than that... News is for-profit. That means they will do what makes them money and that is secondary to Truth or Honesty. Since people in the USA are all extremist they basically WANT bias, and what the paying public wants they get.

@design_RG

Anyone wanna buy some digital rugs? Apparently in town there are a bunch of street vendors selling D-rugs.

@design_RG

The truth is that fake news is a very legitimate problem and Trump absolutely is constantly the target of it.

With that said Trump is legitimately a horrible president and that is true with or without Fake News making it look worse. But then again so was Obama and in some ways even worse than Trump. This isnt a justification of Trump but just an indication that American politicians tend to be shitty no matter what party they come from.

@realcaseyrollins

@mngrif This makes me want to play the old dreamweb game!

I gotta admit, not a great start to 2020...

@raichoo

Haskell is a great language, lots to love about it. I find it fun as a langauge. I simply dont see it as functionally or universally superior to anything else (though perhaps superior in specific use cases). Even PL as a whole is not superior to non-PL overall.

There are many classes of languages, they all shine under certain circumstances. Some shine a bit more often than others overall.

@byron

@raichoo @byron

Well I wouldnt argue that point. Your going to be most effective in a language if it happens to be the language you have significantly more expiernce with. But that is also the result of selection bias and historic usage.

I generally find, as a professional of 3 decades in the CS field, that it only takes me a few months to become an expert in any one language. Over the course of a career it is trivial to become a complete expert in many dozens of languages if you invest the time into learning and applying them. At that point there isnt just one language that you are most expiernced with, you are an expert in many, so it is no longer the limiting factor.

@raichoo

To be fair the tune you are playing is also the tune I've heard from almost anyone that is the fan boy of any specific language, how their language is the good one because it reduces bugs or anything else.

No suprise these people also used their favorite language for "decades" and claim that as expiernce as to why it must be true.

I usually just read it as confirmation bias myself.

The truth is there are certain languages better suited for some tasks than others. Yes they reduce certain classes of bugs, they increase certain classes of other bugs. This doesnt make them equal it just means they are suited in cases where those classes of bugs are of more concern.

What I find almost entierly unhelpful in any discussion about languages is the one guy who is the expert on a language and puts it at the top of his fan list trying to tell everyone how his language of choice is universally superior. IT is completely blind to the nuance and plays entierly to personal biases.

But I agree, to each their own. You code what you have fun doing, as you should. ITs only when you claim your choice universally superior that it looses credibility in my eyes.

@byron

@QuimChaves Hi really great to have you here! I always get excited when I see a new teacher join. Can't wait to see your posts.

If you make an #introduction post I will be happy to boost it as well.

@hansw Well thats the thing. You can build one with nice code highlighting, project tree, the works.. But either it takes a lot of effort to get all the bits working, or it still falls short.

Even with a lot of time spent getting vim to where you want it spacemacs gives me all that out of the box and makes maining conrfiguration a breeze. Its hard for me to see any reason to go with vim over spacemacs at this point and I'm not sure I've seen a vim yet that has the nice powerline status bad spacemacs has.

@hansw Just moved to spacemacs for my IDE. Not exactly VIM but similar. Really love it. It was what i needed to make the switch (not a fan of plain VIM as an IDE).

@mngrif If you ask me hard drives should be high voltage so when you hot swap sparks shower and rain out of the computer. This way the mental imagery would match the reality.

@DissidentKitty So basically they are just like America

I am really falling in love with Spacemacs (Emacs+Vim) since I made the move last night to try this out as my IDE of choice.

I think one of the big factors that stopped me from using VIM more often was two fold: 1) Setup to get it working witht he basic features of a IDE were a pain 2) it is really ugly without enough at-a-glance useful info. Spacemacs solves both those problems.

The only thing I'm learning to do without right now are tabs for multiple files at the same time. Yea you can have buffers and even have them open side by side, so I'll probably make do. But multiple buffers feel like more of a mental effort to maintain than tabs.

#spacemacs #emacs #vim #programming #cs #IT

@byron

Very true, the most important thing is your own productivity. If a choice in language is going to significantly effect that, even if just due to not having fun, then it should factor into your choice.

With that said I tend to get excited about the application, what it can do, what new algorithms I can invent. The language effects my pleasure for sure but its not the biggest factor for my happiness. I can easily pick a less enjoyable language and still be plenty motivated and get the job done if I like the idea.

@raichoo

@kashi Not sure, im in Holland right now :)

@elthommy Certainly isnt a problem for me and I can assure you no one here will complain. We do not enforce topics, just sit back and have fun. If your into STEM then your part of the family :)