Notices by 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org), page 84

@georgia

No one is arguing against the idea that the GNU apps have been huge in the linux world and still is for many, thats cool bro. I just usually dont feel the need to give them a byline anymore than the rest of my userland.

They are great, they are historic, praise the GNU gods, I get it, thats awesome. I'm over them. and I'm digging the alternatives more frankly. I hope they get a note in the history books though.

@yolo @r

Here is a free book (Draft) I am writing (slowly) explaining how to analyze AC electrical circuits in the frequency domain.

Anyone who wants to learn the math behind electronics and specifically AC or RF circuits should download it and check it out,

https://discourse.qoto.org/t/frequency-domain-circuit-analysis-tutorial/41

#electronics #EE #science #rf #circuits #ElectricalEngineering #HAM #science #AC

Here is a free book (Draft) I am writing (slowly) explaining how to analyze AC electrical circuits in the frequency domain.

Anyone who wants to learn the math behind electronics and specifically AC or RF circuits should download it and check it out,

https://discourse.qoto.org/t/frequency-domain-circuit-analysis-tutorial/41

#electronics #EE #science #rf #circuits #ElectricalEngineering #HAM #science #AC

@jahnke Hi there! Sorry I have been distracted but its very nice to meet you and sorry I didnt say hi sooner.

@jahnke hey, not sure if you can call me a mathematician or not. I work with some pretty deep maths though. Right now I'm working on distributed computing stuff mostlly but i have some mathy side projects that may never get done but mant of them have a lot of groundwork laid and i come back to them from time to time. Various algorithm ideas in machine learning

@design_RG

The webinterface still supports the full character limit. Its just a change I need to make int he next upgrade and it will be fixed on pinafore and other clients.

Fix coming soon.

@nolan

@yolo

There are various distros that lack or replace GNU to varying degrees. Andoid pretty much eliminates it completely.

Regardless there are a few distros which have little or no GNU in them.

But the fact that the GNU orginzation contributed some vital parts to the userland is nice and all, but so have thousands of other organizations and people.

Thats why I'm liking going to use one of three terminology, for the sake of percision and because of what information I hope to convey:

1) *nix - I use this just talk about the whole family of POSIX systems

2) Linux - I use this when I want to convey was flavor of kernel I use specifically. This is most common lately since all my systems run linux, not all of them run GNU, so it would be incorrect to say "I only use GNU/Linux" but it would be correct to say "I only use Linux"

3) Archlinux - I use this when I want to specify the entire operating system I use. This will convey the fact that I am using GNU userland, or at least that I am likely to use it, but also convery much of the other non-GNU userland I use. If i want to describe my whole operating system then this is the term I use.

I see little need to specify GNU/Linux which is basically just saying what kernel I use and arbitrarily picking an organization that happened to write a few key userland apps and libraries I use (which ignoring all the other organizations involved). It strikes me as a largely non-descript and pointless phraseology.

It has nothing to do with hating the GNU though or anything like that.

@r

@yolo

Nothing is wrong with it. I just have no loyalty to using it and am more than happy to use non-GNU replacements on linux. Especially so if they have less-viral licenses, but that isnt really a huge driving factor.

It has less to do wiht me taking issue with the GNU which i dont 9but to listen to "r" you would think I do) and more to do with the fact that my loyalty in terms of the software I use is centered around the linux kernel. Thats the must-have component for me.

GNU is fine its just not the part im going to shout from the roof tops is all. Its not the part of my system I happen to be announcing to others or feel relevant to mention most of the time (unless being asked about my userland)

@r

@r I read it the first time. You seem to think I am somehow against GNU, I am not. I simply do not have lyalty to GNU being on my system.

You seem to be making a lot of assumptions. Not sure why you are upset that someone prefers to say " I use the linux kernel" insisting they should specify their userland too

Long story short I will happily use alternatives to GNU userland, I would not be so happy to use alternatives to the linux kernel. so If i announce what I use proudly, I announce the kernel.

Nothing more nothing less and you are doing some impressive mental gymnastics to make a mountain out of a molehill.

@r I'm well aware of the fact that binary blobs occur in the kernel,

If you have a better solution like all open source feel free to contribute it.

@r I mean hell your lucky I said Linux at all, usually I prefer to say *nix

@r No thats not what I said, I support open-source software, I just prefer open source alternatives to the GNU wherever I can.

@r yes I am all about the linux kernel and linus, not so much of a GNU fan boy however.

@r Again that is ignorant to the point I made. I dont see any obligation to mention one among many userland programs. Particularly if they are things I personally wish to see phased out and replaced and do my best to use alternatives

@r

I dont think anyone is denying that GNU didnt make contributions that will show up in any system if you look deep enough.. Thats not really the point.

We simply dont feel there is a need to list all the contributions in our current userland when all we are trying to state is that we are loyal to the kernel itself.

@tuxcrafting @roka

@r

The part you are missing is when people say "I use linux" we arent trying to claim that our operating system is linux, we are only stating that we use the linux kernel and are not being specific about any other details about the operating system, intentionally so.

Even just saying "GNU Linux" would not be an apt description of the operating system you as it says nothing about several components such as package management, which are part of an OS.

So your argument is on a faulty assumption that people are saying "Linux" is intended to be a descriptor of the entire operating system, when it is not.

@tuxcrafting @roka