Notices by 🎓 Dr. Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org), page 83

@miup Right we have a term for that though: *nix

@miup

Whether they notice it or see it doesnt change what it is.

Point is saying GNU/Linux is rather pointless.. it would be like saying "I run Chrome/Linux" as a way of suggesting you run chrome for your web browser just because most of what you see when you sit behind a computer is your web browser.

Yes you could replace the linux kernel and your system would look exactly the same. Despite appearences however you'd no longer have a linux system.

@pschwede Only in a sense.. depends which of the definitions of analogy you invoke.

you comparing like natured things (current and communication) that is fine but its more an analogy than a model.. in a model i am more free to encode that information in whateve rmeans is most effective, even if the way in which i encode it is not of "like nature"

@pschwede yes predictions have a margin of error and sometimes that error is too high to be useful.

But that doesnt mean we arent modeling society. It just means the thing we are modeling has non-deterministic elements to it.

@miup

I am not speaking for everyone, I am only speaking for people who say "I run linux", such as myself. If you use additional qualifiers then you are not part of the group I describe obviously.

My point is that "GNU" is not descriptive of the userland. It only describes one organization that contributes to the userland out of many other non-gnu userland components...

As such linux refers to the kernel, the distro refers to the kernel + userland.

When you say "linux based" all you are saying is the same as me with more words "I have a linux kernel and some other unspecified software that runs on top of it"

@yolo @a1batross @r @georgia

@pschwede Depends are you trying to model society or are you just trying to find an analogy between electricity and society?

An analogy is not a model.

@pschwede They are used effectively to predict the future all the time, so would appeaar that yes, they are.

@pschwede Well the most generic way to answer that is that pulses of voltage would represent bits of data, as it would in a computer. Those bits of data constitute information about the simulated society.

@pschwede well what aspect of society are you looking to model? We have economic models, civil models, growth models, you name it.

@xyfdi I dont think so...

@pschwede Same way you do with any other circuit, lick it :)

What do you mean by "identify"

@pschwede Simple reasoning to conclude you can:

Computers are built out of AC circuits.

Computers are capable of modeling society.

Ergo, AC circuits are capable of modeling society.

@pschwede Simple reasoning to conclude you cant:

Computers are built out of AC circuits.

Computers are capable of modeling society.

Ergo, AC circuits are capable of modeling society.

@miup

I disagree, most **windows** users dont differentiate, this is mostly because its compiled as one monolithic beast with little ability to swap out parts.

Us linux users, however, recognize for us the line in the sand isnt so clear. When we do not wish to differentiate between userland and kernel we use the name of the distrobution. When we do wish to make the distinction we say "Linux" if the userland isnt important to the context.

@yolo @a1batross @r @georgia

@pschwede
Sure, though the level of complexity needed to do so would be another matter

Here is a free book (Draft) I am writing (slowly) explaining how to analyze AC electrical circuits in the frequency domain.

Anyone who wants to learn the math behind electronics and specifically AC or RF circuits should download it and check it out,

https://discourse.qoto.org/t/frequency-domain-circuit-analysis-tutorial/41

#electronics #EE #science #rf #circuits #ElectricalEngineering #HAM #science #AC

@Shamar
Whether the assumption is reasonable or not isnt what defines if it is faulty. The fact remains in this case the assumption was flat our wrong, and thus faulty.
@r @tuxcrafting @roka

@georgia

Just skimmed it, those points appear to all be the points I had already known and considered before I made my statement, It is clear the Auther doesnt know the difference between "Linux" and "GNU/Linux"

@yolo @r

@georgia

If it uses the linux kernel then it is linux, it just doesnt have any of the userland, including GNU

Thats a lot of mental gymnastics.

@yolo @r

@georgia

*BSD is an example, android is another, then there are also even some distros that did away with GNU to the best of their ability.

Also the GNU apps are not any one thing, some of wha GNU provides have more alternatives than others. You cant talk about it like it is one monolithic thing.

@yolo @r