Notices by Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net), page 29
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Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Apr-2017 10:10:16 UTC 
Bob Mottram
@maiyannah @sim I'd rather they stayed away, but there's nothing to stop them from showing up here. It's just that they would need a different approach to how they operate in the silos. They would probably have to buy off some fraction of admins. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Apr-2017 09:56:04 UTC
Bob Mottram
@jookia you can't really control what other people do or think. Nazis can be re-educated in some cases - because they're often just working class people with problems like most others but just have a far lazier analysis of the reasons for their predicament - but usually they will just carry on regardless of anything you say to them. So it's better to block them, either individually or as an instance if they're all on one server. That's a lot easier in the fediverse than it is in the silos. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Apr-2017 09:13:32 UTC
Bob Mottram
@unaspenser @elizafox authoritarianism (minority rule) always leads to bad things, even if exercised by a vanguard of workers with initially good intentions. No single person or special clique is smart enough to solve all problems. Just like here on gnusocial, it's best if people confront the real social relations themselves even though that's not always easy or comfortable. It's psychologically attractive to look to some respected celebrity who will solve all the problems if only you give them your power, but that's always an illusion. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Apr-2017 09:02:46 UTC
Bob Mottram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsvgWEdydDI
I wouldn't frame this in terms of rights or even in terms of consent but it's just about having some control over your own life. Describing it as a democratic issue makes more sense, because democracy is just rule by the demos, and if you can't (or aren't permitted to) even rule over yourself then there's no possibility of democracy. -
Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) ✅ (schestowitz@mastodon.technology)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Apr-2017 05:50:59 UTC 
Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) ✅
#mastodon has passed 350k users, a lot of the growth is coming from #japan these days https://instances.mastodon.xyz/list #freesw
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Constance Variable (lambadalambda@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Apr-2017 07:10:22 UTC 
Constance Variable
@floopfloop @shpuld It works like this: GS is the base, qvitter is both a new frontend and a backend extension that adds some more api endpoints for stuff like notifications. Pleroma is just a frontend, but it uses some of the API endpoints that qvitter adds.
The only reason we don't use the notifications endpoint is because it has a bug in it that makes it only usable with cookie-based auth, which pleroma doesn't do (yet). I'll fix this in qvitter some day and try to get it merged. We already got a similar mute-related bug fixed this way.
There's also Pleroma BE, which is an experimental new backend that also implements the GS/Qvitter API, but is a complete rewrite. That's still in development, though. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Apr-2017 07:19:38 UTC
Bob Mottram
@maiyannah @ninjawedding I blame mastodon -
Mitaj⭐️ ✅ (mitaj@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Apr-2017 06:06:28 UTC 
Mitaj⭐️ ✅
Physicists create 'negative mass'
#science #physics #physhttps://phys.org/news/2017-04-physicists-negative-mass.html https://mastodon.social/media/ZarG6Jh0j6vZ35OYE_Y
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Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Apr-2017 07:03:16 UTC
Bob Mottram
@aral @johnnyoftheswamp some day soon that's going to be one man. One man who owns the world. The situation would be so absurd that it could be a powerful motivator for change. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Apr-2017 06:56:05 UTC
Bob Mottram
@schestowitz a good article by someone who understands federation and doesn't immediately declare mastodon dead. Brands having a harder time here is indeed a feature, and the author makes an implicit link between centralized systems and low quality interactions. -
Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) ✅ (schestowitz@mastodon.technology)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Apr-2017 06:23:10 UTC
Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) ✅
" #Mastodon has exploded onto the social scene in the last week and is gaining users at a phenomenal rate." http://www.zdnet.com/article/is-mastodon-the-new-social-media-star-or-imploding-black-hole/
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Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Apr-2017 06:37:07 UTC
Bob Mottram
@maiyannah @scionicspectre @ninjawedding "These are my principles, and if you don't like them, well, I have others"
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Archaeme Bot (archmeme@gs.archae.me)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Apr-2017 06:15:09 UTC 
Archaeme Bot
Why not python 3? -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Monday, 17-Apr-2017 22:57:54 UTC
Bob Mottram
@cwebber @maiyannah another way to think about this is suppose that you're sending GPG encrypted mail around and via some MTA snafu a message gets delivered to the wrong inbox. In that case message privacy is still maintained. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Monday, 17-Apr-2017 22:48:50 UTC
Bob Mottram
@cwebber @maiyannah yes that's right. There can be (and have been) bugs, federation issues and so on which have meant that messages ended up in unexpected places. In the Hubzilla case the admin is the captain of the ship and isn't the threat model as such. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Monday, 17-Apr-2017 22:45:42 UTC
Bob Mottram
@maiyannah @cwebber like you say, this might be just about changing the language from "privacy" to "message scope" or similar. To actually have privacy you need some kind of message or message group security in place. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Monday, 17-Apr-2017 22:42:28 UTC
Bob Mottram
@maiyannah *GNU/TLS -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Monday, 17-Apr-2017 22:40:42 UTC
Bob Mottram
@cwebber @maiyannah transport security doesn't really prevent the situation where a post from privacy group A somehow accidentally (or otherwise) finds its way into a different group. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Monday, 17-Apr-2017 22:36:55 UTC
Bob Mottram
@cwebber @maiyannah it depends on who the adversary is, but with Hubzilla's "privacy groups" I think it's done with public key crypto and the keys kept on the server (perhaps salted with the instance ID). The admin will still be able to read whatever, but it should avoid user A accidentally being able to read something from user B which was unintended. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Monday, 17-Apr-2017 22:25:03 UTC
Bob Mottram
@cwebber @maiyannah it means that posts contain privacy related metadata which the receiver is then supposed to faithfully implement. Mike points out that this assumes that all actors will play nicely, but its quite possible for the metadata to be ignored. He indicates that advisory privacy is possible in Hubzilla, but not the default and the admin needs to turn it on if they want it.
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