totes agree bob, the point i was trying to make is that capitalism has done *some things* that have benefited a majority of people in western civilization. it isn't perfect, and there's a ton of shit that needs to be fixed. i just think its dishonest to say that its all bad, because you know, this internet thing was built by captialists, and so on. i think in terms of, what are the good parts, what are the bad parts, and how can we fix it so there are less bad parts