Notices by Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net), page 36
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Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 19:14:14 UTC Bob Mottram
@lambadalambda @sonya does that mean they're adding ! groups and fixing the federation bugs? -
Kit Redgrave ๐ฆ๐ดโ ๏ธ (kitredgrave@socially.constructed.space)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 18:46:30 UTC Kit Redgrave ๐ฆ๐ดโ ๏ธ
like, to be honest, my main issue with the shared instance block lists is not that they exist, but that:
(a) they are not sourced with any of reason for why you should block them,
(b) some of these instances don't really have good reasons for why you should block *everyone* on them,
(c) some of them are nonsensical because either they're misspelled, or Mastodon can't federate with them anyway,
(d) despite these issues, people are encouraged to import them anyway For The Good Of The Users,
(e) unintended consequences could happen if every instance just adopted this list; whoever decides what gets on it controls a large part of the fediverse.tl;dr: outsourcing this decision-making to someone else without review is a really bad idea unless you really trust them
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Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 18:36:38 UTC Bob Mottram
@coolboymew this kind of stuff among newbie admins will probably sort itself out over time. Users will just vote with their registrations. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 18:26:53 UTC Bob Mottram
@taknamay @aprrrl I would judge folks based on what they post, and thus far I've not seen any harsh bronies -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 18:01:43 UTC Bob Mottram
@lambadalambda @hector @chen ultimately I think that instances which obsessively block lots of other instances with little or no justification will only lose out, since they will become insular and uninteresting places to be. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 17:40:56 UTC Bob Mottram
@arunisaac I don't but it's a possibility. Some time ago I did investigate searx, but back that it couldn't be Tor proxied and so wasn't very useful. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 17:39:40 UTC Bob Mottram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ2-8FeQHRE -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 16:57:08 UTC Bob Mottram
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Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 16:42:59 UTC Bob Mottram
@brrzap @ginnymcqueen a good pre-existing model for how to do this is Hubzilla. Hubzilla has far better privacy controls so that you can really customise your social web experience. Some admin moderation tools might be ok, but setting individuals up to become "police" doesn't really scale and tends towards irresponsible behavior. It's better if users deal with the real social relations but with tools which allow them to obtain the kind of experience they prefer. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 16:29:27 UTC Bob Mottram
@ginnymcqueen much depends upon the attitudes and intentions of the admin, and this is why it's a good idea to keep the ratio of users to admins as small as possible. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 15:56:15 UTC Bob Mottram
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CltUp19s9lc -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 15:50:16 UTC Bob Mottram
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Dr. Roy Schestowitz (็ฝไผ) (schestowitz@joindiaspora.com)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 14:11:56 UTC Dr. Roy Schestowitz (็ฝไผ)
RMS says he and the FSF are now exploring and studying #mastodon
I reckon they'll soon join and endorse it
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Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 15:21:11 UTC Bob Mottram
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Simon Phipps (webmink@mastodon.cc)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 14:42:44 UTC Simon Phipps
Mastodon seems to be a Patreon-friendly environment, so here's my rationale for using it.
I volunteer as a director of digital rights non-profit boards; Open Rights Group, The Document Foundation and the Open Source Initiative. To pay my bills, I write about my experiences and views (and consult a little).
The writing is supported by my Patreon patrons. If you would like to help me continue writing (and volunteering) then becoming a patron would be very welcome!
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Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 14:47:58 UTC Bob Mottram
@strypey @jeffcliff this is an interesting question. The vulture capitalists depend upon two things:
i) centralisation of the chain of value production, usually by arranging some hierarchical social relations with contracts
ii) extraction of value from the system in a zero sum fashion. The critical part is that this is value which they themselves have not produced. To be a true capitalist you need to be riding on other people's efforts.
There's a problem for blockchains as I understand them in that they actively facilitate both of these steps. To get down to the nitty gritty:
i) The ability to solve blocks needs to be decoupled from the ability to command large amounts of Capital.
ii) Technical trust mechanisms, via encryption et al, need to be coupled to social trust ones. Bonds of real affinity or friendship, etc. This would make it hard to simply "do a runner" with value extracted via some asocial or antisocial methodology. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 14:28:24 UTC Bob Mottram
@strypey @jeffcliff That comes from Engels in Anti-Dรผhring: "The first act by virtue of which the state really constitutes itself the representative of the whole of society โ the taking possession of the means of production in the name of society โ this is, at the same time, its last independent act as a state. State interference in social relations becomes, in one domain after another, superfluous, and then dies out of itself; the government of persons is replaced by the administration of things, and by the conduct of processes of production. The state is not 'abolished'. It dies out. This gives the measure of the value of the phrase 'a free people's state', both as to its justifiable use at times by agitators, and as to its ultimate scientific insufficiency [117]; and also of the demands of the so-called anarchists for the abolition of the state out of hand"
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Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 13:56:33 UTC Bob Mottram
@strypey @jeffcliff Marx didn't think that power would whither away. The socialists of his time saw what happened to the Paris commune and concluded that to succeed there would need to be a "dictatorship of proletarians" as a transitionary step to communism. Only if the social revolution believed to be immanent could be actively defended could it survive in an environment of hostile imperialism. This frames the thinking of the Bolsheviks and the Soviet Union which followed. -
Dr. Roy Schestowitz (็ฝไผ) โ (schestowitz@mastodon.technology)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 13:31:16 UTC Dr. Roy Schestowitz (็ฝไผ) โ
#mastodon about to cross 260k users milestone https://instances.mastodon.xyz/list 300k in the next 24 hours? Seems so... 30% growth during Easter alone?
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Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 13:11:19 UTC Bob Mottram
@schestowitz There's a third point about DRM. If you have the necessary skills then produce media which doesn't have DRM on it. Creative Commons, etc. The more non-DRM media there is the better.