Notices by Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net), page 56
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Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 14:42:23 UTC 
Bob Mottram
@bodil @rauschma dent all the tooted tweets -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 14:40:54 UTC
Bob Mottram
@tuxhedoh @lambadalambda @dredmorbius the main difference will be the policy or preferences of the admin -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 13:18:40 UTC
Bob Mottram
@profoundlynerdy for example, if the knowledge that Google always needs the plaintext to as many things as possible in order to run its business model becomes commonplace, then it's easy to predict what that company will or won't do in the technology space. You don't need to know or understand any of the details.
Pointing out that there are privacy concerns with US companies products is a lot more opaque, because then what is privacy? (hard to define) What are the concerns in detail? (baffling acronyms) etc, etc. You can see how with that line of argumentation the average person just turns off and carries on using WhatsApp, or whatever.
Understanding that everything flows from the core business model is easier to grok. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 13:11:24 UTC
Bob Mottram
@strypey Ring works, but is early stage development. I don't think it's ready for mass adoption. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 12:56:01 UTC
Bob Mottram
@strypey I think there's a Jitsi Meet mobile chat app out there somewhere, but I don't think it's in F-droid yet. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 12:52:09 UTC
Bob Mottram
@profoundlynerdy yes. Change will only come when there's better education more broadly about open source, why free software is better than closed apps and what the business models of the various tech companies are. My impression is that more people are entirely unaware of those things and so that's why they make the choices they do. -
:verified: Jeff Allen (profoundlynerdy@mastodon.technology)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 12:44:01 UTC 
:verified: Jeff Allen
@bob Ah, that makes a certain amount of sense.
"...at launch, privacy was significantly rolled back, with Google now keeping logs of messages indefinitely."
Well, that's bate and switch.
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Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 12:45:21 UTC
Bob Mottram
@katiekats I think it's always best to assume that you never know it all, that your existing knowledge may be fallible in important ways and that there may be significant factors that you're completely unaware of. The search for truth is always difficult and this is just the human predicament. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 12:36:58 UTC
Bob Mottram
@profoundlynerdy I think it was the usual tale of "not invented here", plus I think they had increasing calls for them to support TLS and other security features, which being Google they obviously didn't want because their business model depends on reading all the plaintext.
I don't really keep up with the Googloids but I think they have their own proprietary chat app now, probably with phoney backdoored security. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Allo -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 12:26:17 UTC
Bob Mottram
@strypey @gargron for power users, yes. With a native client you could have pretty good integration with xmpp and gpg keyring. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 12:24:26 UTC
Bob Mottram
@strypey @gargron yes I agree. This is why I like !Pleroma. There's not much too it, and you can bling it up with custom themes and backgrounds. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 12:17:01 UTC
Bob Mottram
When I was living in Manchester last year and at a few meetups asking if anyone uses XMPP the cool kids would look at me as if I was using some kind of stone age technology. I tried explaining the security model but I don't think that went down too well. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 12:12:41 UTC
Bob Mottram
@mmn xmpp is one of the best systems for private communications in my opinion, even though the cool kids don't seem to like it. It can be routed through Tor. An xmpp server can run only from an onion address (you can do that with !Freedombone) and you can have encrypted group chat with OMEMO which has the OWS-type ratchet. -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 12:06:17 UTC
Bob Mottram
@strypey @gargron native clients, rather than things running in browsers, would also be more amenable to integrating real security features. -
Dr. Roy Schestowitz (η½δΌ) β (schestowitz@mastodon.technology)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 11:59:51 UTC 
Dr. Roy Schestowitz (η½δΌ) β
How to Verify Your #Mastodon Account with Keybase https://ryanmaynard.co/mastodon-keybase #freesw
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Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 11:55:44 UTC
Bob Mottram
@strypey @gargron I don't have any experience with the mastodon interface, but spotted quite a nice minimalistic windowing system recently called imgui.
https://github.com/ocornut/imgui
I already have a C library for the gnusocial API, so devising a native client in C/C++ could be quite easy.
https://github.com/bashrc/libgnusocial -
Doc Edward Morbius β (dredmorbius@mastodon.cloud)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 10:52:07 UTC 
Doc Edward Morbius β
Q: How private is Mastodon / GNU Social?
A: Not very. Use email, XMPP, or other secure, encrypted protocols if you need privacy.
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Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 11:34:17 UTC
Bob Mottram
@schestowitz Having seen patents used at various companies and been involved in inventing new products, I generally dislike them. My dislike isn't only limited to software patents either. The quaint narrative about rewarding inventors doesn't actually match reality. Often the true inventors names are not even on the patent. And that's even before getting to the issue of trolls.
I think it was Kropotkin who called patents "the greatest crime against innovation". -
Bob Mottram (bob@social.freedombone.net)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 11:28:17 UTC
Bob Mottram
@strypey @shnoulle Yes I think that's right. You can define the limit in the GS admin settings. -
RysiekΓΊr Memesson (rysiek@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 09-Apr-2017 09:27:41 UTC 
RysiekΓΊr Memesson
@wakest @Trev @masklayer @kodo @schlink yes, Diaspora needs to implement OStatus finally
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