Notices tagged with activitypub, page 26
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Yuri Volkov (yvolk@loadaverage.org)'s status on Friday, 29-Sep-2017 06:00:09 UTC
Yuri Volkov
@cwebber Reposting to make sure you received my reply. Where should I file this #ActivityPub issue?
The #ActivityPub spec's problem is not in that simplistic phrase "users are represented as actors here".
The problem is that there is NO technical description of the whole domain model layer: relation between Actors (e.g. Person) and Users of servers. Current version will be interpreted as having one-to-one relation between the two _different_ kinds of entities, and that _is_ incorrect
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My first post on this subject was:
Contemplating on correct implementation of a data model, corresponding to the #ActivityPub specification, I started to realize that current version of the document https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub has a gap/confusion of two different notions: Person (one of Actor types, see https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-vocabulary/#dfn-person ) and a User of a server (quote from ActivityPub spec: "users are represented as "actors" here")
Actually these are very different notions: a Person may be represented as more than one User, on different servers. And a User may represent not a Person, but e.g. an Organization.
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Yuri Volkov (yvolk@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 28-Sep-2017 06:10:33 UTC
Yuri Volkov
@cwebber The #ActivityPub spec's problem is not in that simplistic phrase "users are represented as actors here".
The problem is that there is NO technical description of the whole domain model layer: relation between Actors (e.g. Person) and Users of servers. Current version will be interpreted as having one-to-one relation between the two _different_ kinds of entities, and that _is_ incorrect
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Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2017 03:44:11 UTC
Danyl Strype
@elizafox @chriswere sounds like #ActivityPub allows a much larger range of federated functions than #OStatus
http://qttr.at/1y2h -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Friday, 15-Sep-2017 15:14:16 UTC
Danyl Strype
@chriswere @elizafox doesn't #Mastodon already allow for selective federation with other servers? I hear it has implemented #ActivityPub -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 14-Sep-2017 07:47:50 UTC
Danyl Strype
@bob @rbonifaz @sri that's great news (I presume). Does #ActivityPub include standards for federated !groups? -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 14-Sep-2017 06:46:16 UTC
Danyl Strype
@rbonifaz @sri #ActivityPub is an attempt to provide all the features and benefits of #OStatus, #pump.io, and #Diaspora's variant of OStatus -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Thursday, 14-Sep-2017 06:43:26 UTC
Danyl Strype
@rbonifaz @sri unless something changed in the last couple of months, #Mastodon uses #OStatus, not #ActivityPub, and doesn't support groups -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Sep-2017 09:08:44 UTC
Danyl Strype
@ajpz I was wondering if something like greater implementation of the draft #ActivityPub spec was increasing interconnections? See the map -
Danyl Strype (strypey@quitter.se)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Sep-2017 09:07:22 UTC
Danyl Strype
Apparently the folks working on the #ActivityPub spec have asked for some formal feedback to inform a final version
http://qttr.at/1i0s -
MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Monday, 11-Sep-2017 08:50:08 UTC
MMN-o ✅⃠
@oxenfree @cybermeow @elizafox @cyberpotato @cajun @thatbrickster @lain @heluecht
Hi, I'm @mmn, maintainer of GNUsocial. I reacted when it was written that "many people on gnusocial are angry" and wish to say that !GNUsocial has only love and appreciation for #Mastodon and #ActivityPub.
I believe cooperation is important for libre software and the federated social web. I believe our plural and diverse community should embrace and encourage contributors and development. Any progress we want to make - regardless of anyone's preferred technology - is impeded by hostility and empowered by friendship.
So I want to say thank @cwebber @gargron et al. for all the hard work you actively put into ActivityPub. It's awesome that so many users get in touch with !fs via open protocols. -
Eugen 💀 (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2017 14:12:52 UTC
Eugen 💀
Mastodon v1.6 is live!
☑️ Easier sharing & discovering content across servers
☑️ Improved first-time user experience
☑️ Fresh new W3C standard #ActivityPub
☑️ Better profiles & pinned tootshttps://medium.com/@Gargron/mastodon-and-the-w3c-f75f376f422
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MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn@social.umeahackerspace.se)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Sep-2017 22:37:58 UTC
MMN-o ✅⃠
@cwebber The only reason !GNUsocial doesn't have #ActivityPub yet is because I have a fulltime job and noone else has been up for the task .]
Though I'm pretty sure it'd still just be the 100% public parts of AP that would be used/promoted, as I'm pretty much convinced there's no such thing as privacy in the social sphere anyway and anyone using "private" communication in an environment like !GNUsocial or #Mastodon is fooled either by the platform, the administrator or other users. (anything accessible via a web browser isn't made for privacy) -
Charles Hutchins (celesteh@quitter.no)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Aug-2017 17:48:56 UTC
Charles Hutchins
Are there plans for !gnusocial to add the new #ActivityPub protocol? -
Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer@sn.jonkman.ca)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2017 01:58:46 UTC
Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
I'm perfectly happy that #Mastodon exists, and if it implements #ActivityPub in a future version, more power to it. And if it drops #OStatus support, well, that's what forks (or reimplementations) like #Mastodon are for. But don't blame #GNUsocial developers for not following #Mastodon's road map for the future. -
AndStatus@Quitter.no (andstatus@quitter.no)'s status on Thursday, 29-Jun-2017 06:55:28 UTC
AndStatus@Quitter.no
@celesteh As I'm sure you've also noticed that the new "Synced..." timeline list header has been added recently. I hope it makes syncing more transparent for a User, but this change definitely introduced some behavior changes and UI bugs. I will fix them using your feedback with observations and also my own experience as I'm also an active user of #AndStatus :-)
In addition, there are being implemented step by step some internal and invisible so far changes geared towards support of the #ActivityPub social networking protocol. Unfortunately, such changes may break something also...
So you feedback and participation in Beta testing is invaluable https://github.com/andstatus/andstatus/issues/456 -
AndStatus (andstatus@loadaverage.org)'s status on Monday, 22-May-2017 05:52:13 UTC
AndStatus
@deadsuperhero Inspiring news! Glad that I noticed them at least now :-)
I didn't think #ActivityPub adoption campaign could be so active :-)
Just this weekend I started to refactor internal data model of #AndStatus from "messages"/"users" with some "favorited", "followed" etc. attributes to "activities" with actors and actions... I'm trying to use terminology of ActivityPub/ActivityStreams as much as possible in order to make application's code more transparent...
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Yuri Volkov (yvolk@loadaverage.org)'s status on Sunday, 14-May-2017 07:32:14 UTC
Yuri Volkov
Yesterday I was implementing #Mastodon API in #AndStatus. Comparing AndStatus with #Tusky client at some point I noticed that Tusky shows me a new post, which mentions myself. But I couldn't find the same post in any timeline that AndStatus feeds from the Mastodon server.
It appeared that in addition to Twitter/GNU Social-like timelines Mastodon has something conceptually similar to an "Activity stream" that is called "Notifications" here and, as other parts of the API, is "hand made" :-)
Actually, this is a good sign, showing that ideas of #ActivityStreams (currently represented by the #ActivityPub standard https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/ ) are growing in the heads of the Mastodon developers. I would go one step further and formulate all timelines and actions as activities and activity streams...
It's interesting that these ideas are growing in _my_ head also :-) - I decided that internal AndStatus model of notifications will be based on ActivityStreams too. I.e. each individual notification will have an Actor, an Action and an Object/Content e.g. "Peter posted 'I met a friend'". Having notifications in such a structure, we will be able to show them to a User in any needed form: in the Android Notification bar or as a timeline.
Currently AndStatus shows mostly "mentions" only in its "Mentions" timeline... -
futureBoyfriend (deadsuperhero@social.nasqueron.org)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Apr-2017 17:34:18 UTC
futureBoyfriend
Oh boy, Evan Prodromou (of #StatusNet / #Pump / #OStatus fame) showed up on #Diaspora's GitHub Issue tracker and asked that we support #ActivityPub
It's a nice thought, and hopefully we can do that in the long term. But some part of me is apprehensive about the spec and the leg work it will take to support it.
There are certain unanswered questions, such as "Will ActivityPub support Diaspora's federated privacy controls?"
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Hallå Kitteh (clacke@social.heldscal.la)'s status on Saturday, 18-Mar-2017 21:48:12 UTC
Hallå Kitteh
@sonyam pump.io has private messaging, followers-only posting, federated identity so you can run around on other servers and comment using your home id, the API is lightweight and very consistent and understandable in comparison with GS+Qvitter (I hear), and it's the basis for the Next Big Thing, #activitypub.
pump.io was built in a few months by one guy though, and GS was built in a couple of years by several full-time people, so there are still quirks in the (actually intentionally) limited web UI. pump.io works best with a client.
@andstatus does a decent job. I'm not going to complain, because I still didn't file those bugs since last I complained, so the buck is with me. It's mostly about message formatting, other than that it's an awesome client for both GS and pump.